Le icone sulla scrivania non stanno al loro posto

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kext ha scritto:
mar, 07 mag 2019 17:38
hai qualche applicativo scritto dal soggetto-oggetto di una discussione che inizia con "Le por" e finisce con "cate di apple, quelle vere"?
32-bitCheck.
Comodissimo.
Però è solo sull'iMac e non sul MacMini, quindi non è lui il colpevole.

Direi che, a meno che salti fuori qualcuno che ha trovato sperimentalmente un programma che blocca la creazione dei DS_Store, di fermarci qui ed aspettare il mese prossimo quando farò la seconda "spianata".
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Mi è venuto un sospetto: sull'iMac alcuni programmi un po' datati li ho installati PRIMA di aggiornare a Mojave.
Sul MacMini, dopo il cambio di hard-disk, sono partito da un'installazione pulita di Mojave.
Vuoi vedere che il combo nuovi sistemi di sicurezza + APFS influisce su qualche installazione, creando il problema?

Solo la sperimentazione mi darà una risposta.
Ne parliamo il mese prossimo.
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Messaggio Inviato: mer, 08 mag 2019 13:10

Paolofast ha scritto:
mar, 07 mag 2019 16:56
... Prima o poi lo becco il colpevole.
Poi.

Perché prima significherebbe fidarti degli esperti del Forum
Paolofast ha scritto:
mer, 08 mag 2019 09:46
... Vuoi vedere che il combo nuovi sistemi di sicurezza + APFS influisce...
Alquanto tirato per i capelli
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faxus ha scritto:
mer, 08 mag 2019 13:10
Perché prima significherebbe fidarti degli esperti del Forum
Gli esperti del Forum finora non hanno proposto alcuna soluzione valida (se rileggi i post vedrai che le ho provate tutte) perché nessuno di loro ha mai incontrato il problema.
In effetti, nella mia ricerca su Internet, non ho trovato nessuno con questo problema.
Se c'è, è sfuggito alla mia ricerca.
E, di solito, le mie ricerche sono accurate.
L'unica vera soluzione proposta, reinstallare tutto, ha funzionato finché non è successo di nuovo quel qualcosa che ha scatenato il problema.
Colpa mia che non ho verificato, man mano che installavo, a che punto il problema si è verificato.
Certamente non subito, visto che le installazioni sono state diluite in almeno 5 giorni e sicuramente nei primi tre non è successo, il che restringe un po' il campo di ricerca.
È per questo che rifarò tutto fino ad arrivare a scoprire sperimentalmente il colpevole.
E durante questa ricerca si fanno ipotesi, qualcuna giusta, qualcuna sballata.
A volte proprio quella apparentemente sballata si rivela giusta.
O forse, anche scoprendo il "colpevole", non capirò mai perché è successo.
Lo sapremo quando farò la nuova reinstallazione.

Nel frattempo, se hai altre soluzioni da proporre, sono pronto a provare.
Se hai domande da fare per inquadrare meglio il problema, falle.
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Paolofast ha scritto:
mer, 08 mag 2019 17:28
... Gli esperti del Forum finora non hanno proposto alcuna soluzione valida perché nessuno di loro ha mai incontrato il problema...
Non fuffare, per favore.

Ti è stato chiesto di elencare le applicazioni installate.
E potevi, come tutti, postare un profilo del sistema fatto con DetectX.

Che tu non lo faccia, è (poco) comprensibile.
Non sei comunque tenuto a farlo.

Sei tu, però, che hai esposto il problema
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faxus ha scritto:
mer, 08 mag 2019 17:37
Ti è stato chiesto di elencare le applicazioni installate.
Se non l'ho fatto c'è un motivo, che non posso spiegare qui.
Credimi sulla fiducia.
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E potevi, come tutti, postare un profilo del sistema fatto con DetectX.
Questo lo posso fare.
Il tempo tecnico di installarlo e pubblico.
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Io posso senz'altro crederti sulla fiducia, ci mancherebbe...

Ma le due affermazioni sono inconciliabili.
A meno che non trucchi il profilo
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Eccolo, senza trucchi.
(Sì ho tanta roba nel login item, ma mi serve.)

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Timestamp (2): Wed May 08 18:14:40 2019
DetectX Swift v1.087

macOS: Version 10.14.4 (Build 18E227)
File System: apfs
Temp: The thermal state is within normal limits.

Boot time: Wed May 8 14:00:20 2019
Uptime:  4:14, 1 user

Spotlight status for /:
	Indexing enabled. 
System Integrity Protection status: enabled.
Gatekeeper status: enabled for App Store and identified developers.
FileVault is Off.

Internet:	Reachable


    Hardware Overview:

      Model Name: Mac mini
      Model Identifier: Macmini7,1
      Processor Name: Intel Core i5
      Processor Speed: 2,6 GHz
      Number of Processors: 1
      Total Number of Cores: 2
      L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
      L3 Cache: 3 MB
      Memory: 8 GB
      Boot ROM Version: 238.0.0.0.0
      SMC Version (system): 2.24f32



  Sharing Preferences:

	File Sharing:  On
	Screen Sharing:  On
	Remote Management:  On
	Back To My Mac:  Off
	Remote Login:  Off
	Remote Apple Events:  Off


3rd Party Kexts (loaded):



 $PATH:

PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin


/etc/paths:
	/usr/local/bin
	/usr/bin
	/bin
	/usr/sbin
	/sbin

/etc/paths.d/:

~/.bash_profile:
	
~/.bashrc:

~/.bash_login:

~/.profile:

~/.bash_logout:


 User Launchd processes:

PID	Status	Label
639	0	com.elgato.eyetv.1840
379	0	com.sweetpproductions.USBclean.3496
360	0	com.iBoysoft.LaunchAtLoginHelper
315	0	com.devon-technologies.XMenu.5712
-	0	com.openssh.ssh-agent
-	0	com.sqwarq.DetectX-Swift.observer
380	0	com.iBoysoft.iBoysoft-Drive-Manager.2656
336	0	com.lumuswork.FreeSpace.3416
381	0	veghTamas.Capsy.3044
335	0	Aperio-Lux.iClock.6056
-	0	veghTamas.CapsyHelper
337	0	com.elgato.eyetvhelper.1856
317	0	com.unmarked.TextSoapMenu.3464
-	0	com.piezo.TranslateTabLaunchAtLoginHelperApp
-	0	com.sweetpproductions.USBcleanHelper
319	0	com.yujitach.MenuMetersApp.3020
382	0	com.piezo.Translate-Tab.3476
-	0	Aperio-Lux.iClock-helper


 System Launchd processes:

658      - 	com.elgato.eyeconnectd
40      - 	com.bombich.ccchelper
0      - 	com.vix.cron
0      0 	org.cups.cupsd
78      - 	com.iBoysoft.iBoysoftdrivemounterHelper



 User Login Items:
 
	/Applications/Tarature/XMenu.app
	/Applications/Produttività/Translate Tab.app
	/Applications/Produttività/Translate Tab.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/TranslateTabLaunchAtLoginHelperApp.app
	/Applications/Video/EyeTV.app
	/Library/Application Support/EyeTV/EyeTV Helper.app
	/Applications/Altre Utilities/deepClock.app
	/Applications/Altre Utilities/deepClock.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/iClock-helper.app
	/Applications/Tarature/TextSoapMenu-MAS.app
	/Applications/Tarature/USBclean.app
	/Applications/Tarature/USBclean.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/USBcleanHelper.app
	/Applications/Compressor.app
	/Applications/Compressor.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/CompressorHelper.app
	/Applications/System Preferences.app
	/Library/PreferencePanes/MenuMeters.prefPane/Contents/Resources/MenuMetersApp.app
	/Applications/iBoysoft Drive Manager.app
	/Applications/iBoysoft Drive Manager.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/LaunchAtLoginHelper.app
	/Applications/Produttività/CalendarFree.app
	/Applications/Produttività/CalendarFree.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/StartAgent.app
	/Applications/Tarature/FreeSpace.app
	/Applications/Altre Utilities/DiskWarrior.app
	/Applications/Altre Utilities/DiskWarrior.app/Contents/Helpers/DiskWarriorStarter.app
	/Applications/Tarature/Capsy.app
	/Applications/Tarature/Capsy.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/CapsyHelper.app



 /Library/LaunchDaemons:

	com.elgato.EyeConnect.plist
		--> Program Arguments: /Library/Application Support/EyeConnect/EyeConnect.app/Contents/MacOS/EyeConnect
	
	com.iBoysoft.iBoysoftdrivemounterHelper.plist
		--> Program Arguments: /Applications/iBoysoft Drive Manager.app/Contents/MacOS/iBoysoft drive manager helper
	
	com.bombich.ccchelper.plist
		-> Program: /Library/PrivilegedHelperTools/com.bombich.ccchelper
		--> Program Arguments: /Library/PrivilegedHelperTools/com.bombich.ccchelper
	



 /Library/LaunchAgents:

	
	



 ~/Library/LaunchAgents:

	com.sqwarq.DetectX-Swift.observer.plist
		--> Program Arguments: /Applications/Tarature/DetectX Swift.app/Contents/MacOS/DetectX Swift
		--> Program Arguments: -observer
	

 User Crontab:

	No cron jobs



 /etc:

	kcpassword
	rc.common
	bashrc_Apple_Terminal
	bashrc
	zshrc
	rc.netboot
	aliases
	zprofile

 / $Root:

	.HFS+ Private Directory Data
 / .. children: 0
	installer.failurerequests
	.file
	.Trashes / .. children: 0
	.VolumeIcon.icns
	.hdd

 ~/ $Home:

	Music / .. children: 2
	.CFUserTextEncoding
	MMData / .. children: 4
	Pictures / .. children: 3
	.InstallAnywhere / .. children: 0
	Desktop / .. children: 7
	Library / .. children: 60
	Parallels / .. children: 2
	.bash_sessions / .. children: 18
	Public / .. children: 2
	Movies / .. children: 14
	.Trash / .. children: 0
	Documents / .. children: 8
	Downloads / .. children: 2
	.bash_history



 ~/Library:

	studentd / .. children: 4
	HomeKit / .. children: 6
	Family / .. children: 1
	Parallels / .. children: 1
	Gas Mask / .. children: 3
	PersonalizationPortrait / .. children: 1



 ~/Library/Application Support:

	Firefox / .. children: 4
	NeoFinder / .. children: 8
	Mozilla / .. children: 1
	com.apple.touristd / .. children: 3
	DiskImages / .. children: 1
	EasyFind / .. children: 0
	Final Draft / .. children: 1
	CoreParsec / .. children: 0
	PlistEdit Pro / .. children: 2
	MobileSync / .. children: 1
	Aegisub / .. children: 4
	Compressor / .. children: 12
	Allavsoft / .. children: 3
	GraphicConverter / .. children: 9
	dmd / .. children: 0
	FFmpegTools / .. children: 1
	Amadeus Pro / .. children: 2
	MediaHuman / .. children: 1
	org.videolan.vlc / .. children: 1
	com.sqwarq.DetectX-Swift / .. children: 2
	XLD / .. children: 2
	HandBrake / .. children: 3
	com.fatcatsoftware.pledpro / .. children: 1
	com.colliderli.iina / .. children: 2
	Transmission / .. children: 4
	ffWorks / .. children: 3
	Hosts / .. children: 1
	com.cherpake.macrc.server / .. children: 10
	XMenu / .. children: 2
	com.sqwarq.DetectX / .. children: 1
	CCC Stats Service / .. children: 2
	.Some_other_preference.pref
	com.iBoysoft.iBoysoft-Drive-Manager / .. children: 0
	com.bombich.ccc / .. children: 4
	DetectX Swift / .. children: 3
	DriveDx / .. children: 3
	A Better Finder Rename 10 / .. children: 4



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	*-- Folder doesn't exist or is inaccessible --*



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	SC Info / .. children: 0
	Library / .. children: 2
	Parallels / .. children: 0



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	allavsoft.app
	Remote Desktop.app
	Video / .. children: 17
	iPad-iPhone / .. children: 2
	Books.app
	Crack / .. children: 1
	Drag & Drop / .. children: 1
	WordService.app
	Final Draft 11.app
	Tarature / .. children: 20
	Connector.app
	Home.app
	Parallels Desktop.app
	News.app
	Produttività / .. children: 8
	Movie Magic / .. children: 2
	Stocks.app
	Grafica / .. children: 4
	iBoysoft Drive Manager.app
	Audio / .. children: 4
	Internet / .. children: 5
	DaVinci Resolve.app
	VoiceMemos.app
	Remote for Mac.app
	Altre Utilities / .. children: 12
	Fonts / .. children: 1
	Compressor.app
	net.downloadhelper.coapp.app



 /Library:

	Parallels / .. children: 1
	Sounds / .. children: 7
	Services / .. children: 1



 /Library/Application Support:

	EyeConnect / .. children: 1
	EP / .. children: 1
	Apple Qmaster / .. children: 1
	FLEXnet Publisher / .. children: 1
	Final Cut Pro System Support / .. children: 1
	EyeTV / .. children: 7
	com.bombich.ccc / .. children: 9



 /Library/Extensions:

	



 /Library/Internet Plug-Ins:

	Disabled Plug-Ins / .. children: 2



 /Library/Managed Preferences:

	*-- Folder doesn't exist or is inaccessible --*



 /Library/PrivilegedHelperTools:

	com.bombich.ccchelper



 /Library/ScriptingAdditions:

	



 /Library/StartupItems:

	



 /Library/Updates:

	ProductMetadata.plist
	index.plist



Top Processes: 

%CPU	PID	COMMAND	
11.2 	144		WindowServer 
8.1		723		ScreensharingAge 
4.0		931		DetectX Swift 
3.3		639-		EyeTV 
2.7		0		kernel_task 
2.7		722		screensharingd 
1.2		335		deepClock 
0.4		319		MenuMetersApp 
0.4		54		powerd 
0.2		241		SystemUIServer 


Running Processes: 

PPID	PID	%CPU	USER	COMMAND	
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1		37		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/syslogd 
1		38		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/UserEventAgent (System) 
1		40		0.0		root		/Library/PrivilegedHelperTools/com.bombich.ccchelper 
1		43		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Uninstall.framework/Resources/uninstalld 
1		44		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/kextd 
1		45		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/FSEvents.framework/Versions/A/Support/fseventsd 
1		47		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/MediaRemote.framework/Support/mediaremoted 
1		50		0.0		_appleevents		/System/Library/CoreServices/appleeventsd --server 
1		51		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/systemstats --daemon 
1		53		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/configd 
1		54		0.6		root		/System/Library/CoreServices/powerd.bundle/powerd 
1		57		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/logd 
1		58		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/keybagd -t 15 
1		63		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/warmd 
1		64		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Support/mds 
1		65		0.0		_iconservices		/System/Library/CoreServices/iconservicesd 
1		66		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/diskarbitrationd 
1		69		0.0		root		/System/Library/CoreServices/backupd.bundle/Contents/Resources/backupd-helper -launchd 
1		70		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/coreduetd 
1		73		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/opendirectoryd 
1		74		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ApplePushService.framework/apsd 
1		75		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Noticeboard.framework/Versions/A/Resources/nbstated 
1		76		0.0		root		/System/Library/CoreServices/launchservicesd 
1		77		0.0		_timed		/usr/libexec/timed 
1		78		0.0		root		/Applications/iBoysoft Drive Manager.app/Contents/MacOS/iBoysoft drive manager helper 
1		79		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/securityd -i 
1		80		0.0		_usbmuxd		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/MobileDevice.framework/Versions/A/Resources/usbmuxd -launchd 
1		82		0.0		_locationd		/usr/libexec/locationd 
1		84		0.0		root		autofsd		
1		85		0.0		_displaypolicyd		/usr/libexec/displaypolicyd -k 1 
1		86		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/dasd 
1		87		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Heimdal.framework/Helpers/kdc 
1		90		0.0		makoto		/System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow console 
1		91		0.0		root		/System/Library/CoreServices/logind 
1		92		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/GenerationalStorage.framework/Versions/A/Support/revisiond 
1		93		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/KernelEventAgent 
1		95		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/bluetoothd 
1		96		0.0		_hidd		/usr/libexec/hidd 
1		97		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/sandboxd 
1		98		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/corebrightnessd --launchd 
1		99		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/AirPlayXPCHelper 
1		100		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/amfid 
1		101		0.1		root		/usr/sbin/notifyd 
1		102		0.0		_distnote		/usr/sbin/distnoted daemon 
1		103		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/cfprefsd daemon 
1		105		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/Security.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/authd.xpc/Contents/MacOS/authd 
1		106		0.0		root		aslmanager		
1		109		0.0		root		/System/Library/CoreServices/coreservicesd 
1		111		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreDuetContext.framework/Resources/contextstored 
1		115		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/airportd 
1		116		0.0		_coreaudiod		/usr/sbin/coreaudiod 
1		118		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/nehelper 
1		128		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/trustd 
1		130		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/PCSC.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.ctkpcscd.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.ctkpcscd 
1		131		0.0		_ctkd		/System/Library/Frameworks/CryptoTokenKit.framework/ctkd -s 
1		143		0.0		_coreaudiod		/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreAudio.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.audio.DriverHelper.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.audio.DriverHelper 
1		144		11.7		_windowserver		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/SkyLight.framework/Resources/WindowServer -daemon 
1		149		0.0		_networkd		/usr/libexec/symptomsd 
1		151		0.0		_mdnsresponder		/usr/sbin/mDNSResponder 
1		152		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/mobileassetd 
1		153		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/mDNSResponderHelper 
1		156		0.0		_nsurlsessiond		/usr/libexec/nsurlsessiond --privileged 
1		158		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/lsd runAsRoot 
1		159		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/syspolicyd 
1		166		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/taskgated 
1		169		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreSymbolication.framework/coresymbolicationd 
1		170		0.0		root		/System/Library/CryptoTokenKit/com.apple.ifdreader.slotd/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.ifdreader 
1		171		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/apfsd 
1		172		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/usbd 
1		173		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/firmwarecheckers/ethcheck/ethcheck --integrity-check-daemon 
1		174		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/WirelessDiagnostics.framework/Support/awdd 
1		187		0.0		_nsurlstoraged		/usr/libexec/nsurlstoraged --privileged 
1		190		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/watchdogd 
1		191		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/TCC.framework/Resources/tccd system 
1		193		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/thermald 
1		194		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Support/mds_stores 
1		196		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/secinitd 
1		197		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/AudioToolbox.framework/AudioComponentRegistrar -daemon 
1		198		0.0		_coreaudiod		/System/Library/Frameworks/AudioToolbox.framework/XPCServices/com.apple.audio.SandboxHelper.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.audio.SandboxHelper 
1		199		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/CVMServer 
1		200		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/colorsync.displayservices 
1		201		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/colorsyncd 
1		210		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/Security.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.CodeSigningHelper.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.CodeSigningHelper 
1		211		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/bootinstalld 
1		218		0.0		root		/System/Library/CoreServices/sharedfilelistd 
1		220		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/AccountPolicy.framework/XPCServices/com.apple.AccountPolicyHelper.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.AccountPolicyHelper 
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1		932		0.0		makoto		/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Support/mdworker_shared -s mdworker -c MDSImporterWorker -m com.apple.mdworker.shared 
1		933		0.0		makoto		/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Support/mdworker_shared -s mdworker -c MDSImporterWorker -m com.apple.mdworker.shared 
1		955		0.0		makoto		/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Support/mdworker_shared -s mdworker -c MDSImporterWorker -m com.apple.mdworker.shared 
1		966		0.0		makoto		/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Support/mdworker_shared -s mdworker -c MDSImporterWorker -m com.apple.mdworker.shared 
1		968		0.0		makoto		/System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/CVMCompiler 2 
1		1113		0.0		root		/System/Library/CoreServices/uncd 
1		1154		0.0		makoto		/System/Library/Frameworks/Metal.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/MTLCompilerService.xpc/Contents/MacOS/MTLCompilerService 
1		1155		0.0		makoto		/System/Library/Frameworks/Metal.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/MTLCompilerService.xpc/Contents/MacOS/MTLCompilerService 
1		1156		0.0		makoto		/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Support/mdworker_shared -s mdworker -c MDSImporterWorker -m com.apple.mdworker.shared 
1		1157		0.0		makoto		/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Support/mdworker_shared -s mdworker -c MDSImporterWorker -m com.apple.mdworker.shared 
1		1158		0.0		makoto		/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Support/mdworker_shared -s mdworker -c MDSImporterWorker -m com.apple.mdworker.shared 
1		1159		0.0		makoto		/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Support/mdworker_shared -s mdworker -c MDSImporterWorker -m com.apple.mdworker.shared 

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Prova a rimuovere Tarature.
L’inerzia soddisfatta dei cittadini è all’origine di quella incredibile malattia che è la servitù volontaria

E se vivremo, sarà per calpestare i re.
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mattleega ha scritto:
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Prova a rimuovere Tarature.
È una cartella.
Dentro ci sta anche DetectX.
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Allora, sempre in quella cartella, disabilita, meglio se disinstalli,
"TextSoapMenu"
L’inerzia soddisfatta dei cittadini è all’origine di quella incredibile malattia che è la servitù volontaria

E se vivremo, sarà per calpestare i re.
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mattleega ha scritto:
mer, 08 mag 2019 20:46
Allora, sempre in quella cartella, disabilita, meglio se disinstalli,
"TextSoapMenu"
Perché?
Prima di spianare NON era tra quelli installati.
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Per chiarezza, è meglio raccontare la storia di nuovo, riassumendo (ed integrando) quanto ho scritto in vari post.
L'anno scorso ho sostituito l'hard-disk del mio MacMini (ancora un meccanico, gli SSD non erano ancora calati di prezzo ai livelli attuali) e ne ho approfittato per installare tutto ex-novo invece di clonare il vecchio disco.
Per pigrizia ho installato solo pochi dei programmi previsti, poi, in seguito, qualcun altro che mi serviva.
Il MacMini viene usato principalmente come centro multimediale, quindi sono indispensabili sono EyeTV e IINA.
Tutto il resto è un duplicato di programmi che solitamente uso con il mio iMac e che vengono usati se l'iMac è occupato o indisponibile.
Salvo un paio (che so che non sono indiziati perché installati DOPO la comparsa del problema) TUTTI i programmi installati sul MacMini sono installati anche sull'iMac.
Che non ha il problema.

Unica differenza: nell'iMac molti hanno avuto la prima installazione con sistemi operativi precedenti a Mojave, qualcuno addirittura con il sistema originale, El Capitan.
L'iMac, infatti, è sempre stato aggiornato e mai spianato ed il problema incriminato non è mai comparso.
Anche il MacMini era nato con El Capitan e prima del cambio del disco c'erano stati solo aggiornamenti di sistema, mai una spianata e reinstallazione.
Il problema è poi comparso sul MacMini DOPO il cambio di disco, installazione pulita di Mojave e successiva installazione dei programmi.
Alla fine, come ho raccontato, ho spianato tutto di nuovo ed ho rimesso sia i pochi programmi che avevo prima, sia altri "doppioni" di quelli sull'iMac.
Ad un certo punto il problema si è ripresentato, ma, non avendo fatto controlli di tanto in tanto, non so a che punto è successo.
Posso escludere i primissimi installati (EyeTv, IINA e poco altro) e quelli che non erano installati prima.
Ne rimangono una quindicina.

Ora, se faxus capisce il problema dal profilo che ho postato, bene, altrimenti l'unica è spianare di nuovo, installare i "sospettati", controllare ogni volta se il problema è comparso, fino a trovare il colpevole.
Una volta trovato il colpevole, si potrà, forse, trovare il motivo del problema e trovare una soluzione.
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* l'asterisco si legge alla fine :)

/Applications:

VLC.app
allavsoft.app
Remote Desktop.app
Video / .. children: 17
iPad-iPhone / .. children: 2
Books.app
Crack / .. children: 1
Drag & Drop / .. children: 1
WordService.app
Final Draft 11.app
Tarature / .. children: 20
Connector.app
Home.app
Parallels Desktop.app
News.app
Produttività / .. children: 8
Movie Magic / .. children: 2
Stocks.app
Grafica / .. children: 4
iBoysoft Drive Manager.app
Audio / .. children: 4
Internet / .. children: 5
DaVinci Resolve.app
VoiceMemos.app
Remote for Mac.app
Altre Utilities / .. children: 12
Fonts / .. children: 1
Compressor.app
net.downloadhelper.coapp.app

Copia queste applicazioni (??) su un supporto esterno. Ho paura che non basterà una chiavetta da qualche GB :D
Eliminale dal MacMini. A mano, con EasyFind, col lanciafiamme, buttandole nel cestino, come ti pare.
Riavvia.
Se il problema non si presenterà più hai risolto. Puoi reinserire un pezzo alla volta. Col metodo cui facevi cenno sopra.
Tanto quando li avrai reinseriti tutti il problema si ripresenterà.
Lapalissiano.

Come dici? Non sono applicazioni, ma sono cartelle con dentro anche delle applicazioni? E come mai stanno in /Applications di DetectX?
Lo sapete solo tu ed il Padreterno cosa c'è lì dentro a quelle applicazioni.



* 4 pagine di topic per un problema che non è un problema.
Io capisco tante cose, che ognuno ha i suoi gusti, che il bello possa esser considerato un fattore soggettivo, che c'è chi è ordinato in modo maniacale e chi invece vive in un disordine organizzato a mo' di "Lo zen e l'arte della manutenzione del Mac". Non siamo tutti uguali, ognuno ha le sue preferenze.

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Da qualche giorno... non rimangono dove le avevo messe e si incolonnano tutte a destra sotto l'icona del disco di sistema.
Io sarei contentissimo :) .

Poi se a te piace una scrivania del genere, beh, ognuno è fatto a modo suo!

Immagine

A me è venuto male agli occhi solo a caricare la foto.
Se funziona, non aggiustarlo.


MBP 13" late 2010 macOS 10.12.6 Sierra
HD originale deceduto, sostituito con SSD Samsung EVO 850 da 250 GB
Motherboard riparata, aprile 2016
Upgrade RAM a 8 GB, gennaio 2018
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* 4 pagine di topic per un problema che non è un problema.
Forse ti sei perso qualche passaggio.
Il fatto che le icone sulla scrivania non stessero al loro posto era solo un primo sintomo.
Approfondendo, ho scoperto che il sistema non scriveva più i file DS_Store dappertutto e l'ho scritto in un post successivo.
Ora, i DS_Store sono dei file di sistema con una funzione specifica e se il sistema non li scrive significa che qualcosa non va.
E se non stesse scrivendo anche altri files importanti?

In questo momento c'è un programma, perfettamente funzionante su altri computer, che su quello blocca la scrittura di files di sistema.
E se incominciasse a farlo anche ad altri?
Io non lo considererei un "non problema".
Kundalini ha scritto:
gio, 09 mag 2019 01:22
E come mai stanno in /Applications di DetectX?
Perché è la lista che DetectX compila del contenuto della cartella Applicazioni (escludendo quelle di serie), senza listare il contenuto delle sottocartelle.
È una semplice lista informativa, i problemi veri di solito si trovano in altre cartelle.
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