IMac lentissimo, inutilizzabile

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TonyErre
Iscritto il: dom, 21 apr 2019 18:43
Messaggi: 9
Oggetto del messaggio: IMac lentissimo, inutilizzabile

Messaggio Inviato: dom, 21 apr 2019 19:00

Ciao a tutti,
Mi chiamo Antonio e ho un iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2013) che non so per quale motivo va lentissimo, ho provato a formattare, fare tutti i reset possibili (SMC ecc..) ma non ne vuole sapere niente, le ventole girano al massimo della velocità anche in idle e l'iMac va lentissimo.
Ho fatto una verifica con etrecheckpro e qui ho il suo report
Report di EtreCheck.rtf
(7 KiB) Scaricato 12 volte
e anche uno di drivedx
Report DriveDX.rtf
(10.64 KiB) Scaricato 12 volte
Grazie in anticipo a tutti
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Oggetto del messaggio: Re: IMac lentissimo, inutilizzabile

Messaggio Inviato: dom, 21 apr 2019 20:43

Benvenuto.

Se vuoi presentarti alla comunità puoi farlo da
http://www.imaccanici.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=30
Saremo in tanti a salutarti.

Non usiamo più EtreCheck, se non raramente una vecchia versione.
È diventato inutile e DriveX non offre nessuna indicazione.
(In ogni caso ricorda che tutto quello che va esposto sul Forum dovrebbe essere postato come testo e come codice).


Scarica ed esegui DetectX
https://sqwarq.com/detectx/
Vedi se ti segnala qualcosa ed eventualmente riporta il contenuto della segnalazione di adware (integralmente).
Se c'è qualcosa riporta anche quello della finestra Profile.
Solo quello che entra in un post, il resto non serve.
Per favore, come sempre, come testo e come codice (</>)
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Oggetto del messaggio: Re: IMac lentissimo, inutilizzabile

Messaggio Inviato: dom, 21 apr 2019 21:01

faxus ha scritto:
dom, 21 apr 2019 20:43
Non usiamo più EtreCheck, se non raramente una vecchia versione.
È diventato inutile...
Certo che EtreCheck è veramente scaduto. Questa versione 5.2 (PRO? Ma occorre pure pagare?) non fornisce più nessuna informazione valida. Un resoconto di dati che sono reperibili direttamente da applicazioni del SO o di terze parti completamente gratuite. Grande delusione.

TonyErre fai girare DetectX come suggerito e si vedrà.

Certo che con queste caratteristiche
Drives:
    disk0 - APPLE HDD HTS541010A9E662 1.00 TB (Mechanical- 5400 RPM)
    Internal SATA 3 Gigabit Serial ATA
        disk0s1 - EFI (MS-DOS FAT32) [EFI] 210 MB
        disk0s2 [APFS Container] 1000.00 GB
            disk1 [APFS Virtual drive] 1000.00 GB (Shared by 4 volumes)
                disk1s1 - M*****X (APFS) (Shared - 12.62 GB used)
                disk1s2 - Preboot (APFS) [APFS Preboot] (Shared - 46 MB used)
                disk1s3 - Recovery (APFS) [Recovery] (Shared - 523 MB used)
                disk1s4 - VM (APFS) [APFS VM] (Shared - 4.29 GB used)
farci girare Mojave diventa arduo.

Benvenuto comunque.
Se funziona, non aggiustarlo.


MBP 13" late 2010 macOS 10.12.6 Sierra
HD originale deceduto, sostituito con SSD Samsung EVO 850 da 250 GB
Motherboard riparata, aprile 2016
Upgrade RAM a 8 GB, gennaio 2018
TonyErre
Iscritto il: dom, 21 apr 2019 18:43
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Oggetto del messaggio: Re: IMac lentissimo, inutilizzabile

Messaggio Inviato: dom, 21 apr 2019 21:16

Buonasera
Grazie delle vostre risposte, ho scaricato e installato DetectX ma non ha trovato nulla, nel settore profile è uscito questo

Codice: Seleziona tutto

Timestamp (3): Sun Apr 21 21:13:37 2019
DetectX Swift v1.086

macOS: Version 10.14.4 (Build 18E227)
File System: apfs
Temp: Critical: The thermal state is significantly impacting the performance of the system and the device needs to cool down. Reduce usage of the CPU, GPU, and any I/O to the minimum level required for user interaction. Stop using any peripherals such as the camera.


Boot time: Sun Apr 21 21:00:50 2019
Uptime: 13 mins, 1 user

Spotlight status for /:
	Indexing enabled. 
System Integrity Protection status: enabled.
Gatekeeper status: enabled for App Store and identified developers.
FileVault is Off.

Internet:	Reachable


    Hardware Overview:

      Model Name: iMac
      Model Identifier: iMac14,1
      Processor Name: Intel Core i5
      Processor Speed: 2,7 GHz
      Number of Processors: 1
      Total Number of Cores: 4
      L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
      L3 Cache: 4 MB
      Memory: 8 GB
      Boot ROM Version: 135.0.0.0.0
      SMC Version (system): 2.14f24



  Sharing Preferences:

	File Sharing:  Off
	Screen Sharing:  Off
	Remote Management:  Off
	Back To My Mac:  Off
	Remote Login:  Off
	Remote Apple Events:  Off


3rd Party Kexts (loaded):



 $PATH:

PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin


/etc/paths:
	/usr/local/bin
	/usr/bin
	/bin
	/usr/sbin
	/sbin

/etc/paths.d/:

~/.bash_profile:
	
~/.bashrc:

~/.bash_login:

~/.profile:

~/.bash_logout:


PID	Status	Label
-	0	com.openssh.ssh-agent
759	0	com.sqwarq.DetectX-Swift.1668
-	0	com.sqwarq.DetectX-Swift.observer


 System Launchd processes:

0      - 	com.vix.cron
0      0 	org.cups.cupsd



 User Login Items:
nil



 /Library/LaunchDaemons:

	
	



 /Library/LaunchAgents:

	
	



 ~/Library/LaunchAgents:

	com.sqwarq.DetectX-Swift.observer.plist
		--> Program Arguments: /Applications/DetectX Swift.app/Contents/MacOS/DetectX Swift
		--> Program Arguments: -observer
	

 User Crontab:

	No cron jobs



 /etc:

	rc.common
	bashrc_Apple_Terminal
	bashrc
	zshrc
	rc.netboot
	aliases
	zprofile

 / $Root:

	.HFS+ Private Directory Data
 / .. children: 0
	installer.failurerequests
	.file

 ~/ $Home:

	Music / .. children: 1
	.CFUserTextEncoding
	Pictures / .. children: 2
	Desktop / .. children: 2
	Library / .. children: 60
	.cups / .. children: 1
	Public / .. children: 2
	Movies / .. children: 2
	.Trash / .. children: 0
	Documents / .. children: 1
	Downloads / .. children: 3



 ~/Library:

	studentd / .. children: 4
	HomeKit / .. children: 7
	Family / .. children: 1
	PersonalizationPortrait / .. children: 1



 ~/Library/Application Support:

	com.apple.sbd / .. children: 1
	com.apple.touristd / .. children: 3
	DiskImages / .. children: 1
	dmd / .. children: 0
	CEF / .. children: 1
	NVIDIA / .. children: 3
	com.sqwarq.DetectX-Swift / .. children: 2
	DetectX Swift / .. children: 3
	DriveDx / .. children: 6



 ~/Library/Safari/Extensions:

	*-- Folder doesn't exist or is inaccessible --*



 ~/Library/Internet Plug-Ins:

	



 /Users/Shared:

	adi / .. children: 0
	



 /Applications:

	Books.app
	Home.app
	News.app
	DetectX Swift.app
	GeForceNOW.app
	Stocks.app
	VoiceMemos.app



 /Library:

	



 /Library/Application Support:

	



 /Library/Extensions:

	



 /Library/Internet Plug-Ins:

	Disabled Plug-Ins / .. children: 2



 /Library/Managed Preferences:

	*-- Folder doesn't exist or is inaccessible --*



 /Library/PrivilegedHelperTools:

	*-- Folder doesn't exist or is inaccessible --*



 /Library/ScriptingAdditions:

	



 /Library/StartupItems:

	



 /Library/Updates:

	ProductMetadata.plist



Top Processes: 

%CPU	PID	COMMAND	
16.0 	130		WindowServer 
13.4 	92		sandboxd 
11.6 	272		callservicesd 
11.4 	302		soagent 
4.9		421		Safari 
4.0		759		DetectX Swift 
2.7		0		kernel_task 
2.0		431		com.apple.WebKit 
1.0		91		hidd 
0.7		370		Dock 


Running Processes: 

PPID	PID	%CPU	USER	COMMAND	
0		1		0.1		root		/sbin/launchd 
1		36		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/syslogd 
1		37		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/UserEventAgent (System) 
1		40		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Uninstall.framework/Resources/uninstalld 
1		41		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/kextd 
1		42		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/FSEvents.framework/Versions/A/Support/fseventsd 
1		44		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/MediaRemote.framework/Support/mediaremoted 
1		47		0.0		_appleevents		/System/Library/CoreServices/appleeventsd --server 
1		48		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/systemstats --daemon 
1		50		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/configd 
1		51		0.0		root		/System/Library/CoreServices/powerd.bundle/powerd 
1		54		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/logd 
1		55		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/keybagd -t 15 
1		60		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/warmd 
1		61		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Support/mds 
1		62		0.0		_iconservices		/System/Library/CoreServices/iconservicesd 
1		63		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/diskarbitrationd 
1		66		0.0		root		/System/Library/CoreServices/backupd.bundle/Contents/Resources/backupd-helper -launchd 
1		67		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/coreduetd 
1		70		0.1		root		/usr/libexec/opendirectoryd 
1		71		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ApplePushService.framework/apsd 
1		72		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Noticeboard.framework/Versions/A/Resources/nbstated 
1		73		0.0		root		/System/Library/CoreServices/launchservicesd 
1		74		0.0		_timed		/usr/libexec/timed 
1		75		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/securityd -i 
1		76		0.0		_usbmuxd		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/MobileDevice.framework/Versions/A/Resources/usbmuxd -launchd 
1		78		0.0		_locationd		/usr/libexec/locationd 
1		80		0.0		root		autofsd		
1		81		0.0		_displaypolicyd		/usr/libexec/displaypolicyd -k 1 
1		82		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/dasd 
1		85		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Contents/MacOS/loginwindow console 
1		86		0.0		root		/System/Library/CoreServices/logind 
1		87		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/GenerationalStorage.framework/Versions/A/Support/revisiond 
1		88		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/KernelEventAgent 
1		90		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/bluetoothd 
1		91		0.0		_hidd		/usr/libexec/hidd 
1		92		16.8		root		/usr/libexec/sandboxd 
1		93		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/corebrightnessd --launchd 
1		94		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/AirPlayXPCHelper 
1		95		0.1		root		/usr/sbin/notifyd 
1		96		0.0		_distnote		/usr/sbin/distnoted daemon 
1		97		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/cfprefsd daemon 
1		98		0.0		root		/System/Library/CoreServices/coreservicesd 
1		99		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/Security.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/authd.xpc/Contents/MacOS/authd 
1		100		0.0		root		aslmanager		
1		101		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/airportd 
1		122		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreDuetContext.framework/Resources/contextstored 
1		126		0.0		_coreaudiod		/usr/sbin/coreaudiod 
1		127		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/nehelper 
1		130		11.4		_windowserver		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/SkyLight.framework/Resources/WindowServer -daemon 
1		132		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/PCSC.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.ctkpcscd.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.ctkpcscd 
1		133		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/trustd 
1		136		0.0		_ctkd		/System/Library/Frameworks/CryptoTokenKit.framework/ctkd -s 
1		144		0.0		_coreaudiod		/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreAudio.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.audio.DriverHelper.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.audio.DriverHelper 
1		145		0.0		_networkd		/usr/libexec/symptomsd 
1		146		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/mobileassetd 
1		147		0.0		_nsurlsessiond		/usr/libexec/nsurlsessiond --privileged 
1		148		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreSymbolication.framework/coresymbolicationd 
1		149		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/ocspd 
1		160		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/lsd runAsRoot 
1		165		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/smd 
1		168		0.0		_nsurlstoraged		/usr/libexec/nsurlstoraged --privileged 
1		169		0.0		root		/System/Library/CryptoTokenKit/com.apple.ifdreader.slotd/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.ifdreader 
1		170		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/apfsd 
1		172		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/usbd 
1		173		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/firmwarecheckers/ethcheck/ethcheck --integrity-check-daemon 
1		174		0.0		_cmiodalassistants		/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreMediaIO.framework/Resources/VDC.plugin/Contents/Resources/VDCAssistant 
1		175		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/WirelessDiagnostics.framework/Support/awdd 
1		176		0.0		_mdnsresponder		/usr/sbin/mDNSResponder 
1		177		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/syspolicyd 
1		178		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/mDNSResponderHelper 
1		180		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/watchdogd 
1		181		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/TCC.framework/Resources/tccd system 
1		183		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Support/mds_stores 
1		184		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/thermald 
1		186		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/secinitd 
1		192		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/findmydeviced 
1		193		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/AudioToolbox.framework/AudioComponentRegistrar -daemon 
1		194		0.0		_netbios		/usr/sbin/netbiosd 
1		195		0.0		_coreaudiod		/System/Library/Frameworks/AudioToolbox.framework/XPCServices/com.apple.audio.SandboxHelper.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.audio.SandboxHelper 
1		197		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/CVMServer 
1		199		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/colorsync.displayservices 
1		200		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/colorsyncd 
1		208		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/Security.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.CodeSigningHelper.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.CodeSigningHelper 
1		209		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/bootinstalld 
1		211		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ViewBridge.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/ViewBridgeAuxiliary.xpc/Contents/MacOS/ViewBridgeAuxiliary 
1		214		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/distnoted agent 
1		217		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/PerformanceAnalysis.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.PerformanceAnalysis.animationperfd.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.PerformanceAnalysis.animationperfd 
1		219		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/sysmond 
1		221		0.0		_assetcache		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/AssetCacheServices.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/AssetCacheLocatorService.xpc/Contents/MacOS/AssetCacheLocatorService -d 
1		222		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/AmbientDisplay.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.AmbientDisplayAgent.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.AmbientDisplayAgent 
48		223		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/systemstats --logger-helper /private/var/db/systemstats 
1		224		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/spindump 
1		225		0.0		root		/System/Library/CoreServices/SubmitDiagInfo server-init 
1		226		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreMediaIO.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.cmio.registerassistantservice.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.cmio.registerassistantservice 
1		227		0.0		_assetcache		/usr/libexec/AssetCache/AssetCache 
1		229		0.0		root		/System/Library/CoreServices/sharedfilelistd 
1		231		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/systemsoundserverd 
1		232		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/LocalAuthentication.framework/Support/coreauthd 
1		233		0.0		root		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/AccountPolicy.framework/XPCServices/com.apple.AccountPolicyHelper.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.AccountPolicyHelper 
1		234		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/CryptoTokenKit.framework/ctkahp.bundle/Contents/MacOS/ctkahp -d 
1		244		0.0		[U501]		/usr/sbin/cfprefsd agent 
1		245		0.0		[U501]		/usr/sbin/distnoted agent 
1		246		0.0		_spotlight		/usr/sbin/distnoted agent 
1		247		0.0		[U501]		/usr/libexec/lsd 
1		256		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/GSS.framework/Helpers/GSSCred 
1		259		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/Frameworks/LocalAuthentication.framework/Support/coreauthd 
1		260		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/securityd_service 
1		262		0.0		[U501]		/usr/libexec/UserEventAgent (Aqua) 
1		264		0.0		[U501]		/usr/sbin/universalaccessd launchd -s 
1		265		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreTelephony.framework/Support/CommCenter -L 
1		266		0.0		[U501]		/usr/libexec/trustd --agent 
1		267		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Frameworks/ATS.framework/Support/fontd 
1		269		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/CoreServices/backgroundtaskmanagementagent 
1		270		0.0		[U501]		/usr/libexec/secd 
1		271		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/WirelessRadioManagerd 
1		272		16.5		[U501]		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/TelephonyUtilities.framework/callservicesd 
1		274		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/IDS.framework/identityservicesd.app/Contents/MacOS/identityservicesd 
1		275		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/Frameworks/Accounts.framework/Versions/A/Support/accountsd 
1		276		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/CoreServices/iconservicesagent 
1		277		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/IMCore.framework/imagent.app/Contents/MacOS/imagent 
1		278		0.0		root		/System/Library/Frameworks/VideoToolbox.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/VTDecoderXPCService.xpc/Contents/MacOS/VTDecoderXPCService 
1		279		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/TCC.framework/Resources/tccd 
1		280		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/IMDPersistence.framework/XPCServices/IMDPersistenceAgent.xpc/Contents/MacOS/IMDPersistenceAgent 
1		281		0.0		[U501]		/usr/libexec/spindump_agent 
1		282		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/Frameworks/AddressBook.framework/Executables/ContactsAccountsService 
1		283		0.0		[U501]		/usr/libexec/secinitd 
1		284		0.0		root		/usr/sbin/wirelessproxd 
1		285		0.0		[U501]		/usr/libexec/rapportd 
1		286		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/AuthKit.framework/Versions/A/Support/akd 
1		287		0.0		[U501]		/usr/libexec/routined LAUNCHED_BY_LAUNCHD 
1		288		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CloudKitDaemon.framework/Support/cloudd 
1		289		0.0		_analyticsd		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreAnalytics.framework/Support/analyticsd 
1		290		0.0		[U501]		/usr/libexec/nsurlstoraged 
1		292		0.0		[U501]		/usr/sbin/usernoted 
1		293		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/Frameworks/Security.framework/Versions/A/Resources/CloudKeychainProxy.bundle/Contents/MacOS/CloudKeychainProxy 
1		294		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/Image Capture/Support/icdd 
1		296		0.0		[U501]		/usr/libexec/nsurlsessiond 
1		297		0.0		root		/System/Library/CoreServices/CrashReporterSupportHelper server-init 
1		299		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/CoreServices/NotificationCenter.app/Contents/MacOS/NotificationCenter 
1		301		0.0		[U501]		/usr/libexec/pboard 
1		302		16.9		[U501]		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/MessagesKit.framework/Resources/soagent.app/Contents/MacOS/soagent 
1		303		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/UserActivity.framework/Agents/useractivityd 
1		304		0.0		[U501]		/usr/libexec/sharingd 
1		305		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ViewBridge.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/ViewBridgeAuxiliary.xpc/Contents/MacOS/ViewBridgeAuxiliary 
1		306		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/CoreServices/talagent 
1		307		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/IMFoundation.framework/XPCServices/IMRemoteURLConnectionAgent.xpc/Contents/MacOS/IMRemoteURLConnectionAgent 
1		308		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/PrintingPrivate.framework/Versions/A/PrintUITool 
1		310		0.0		[U501]		/usr/libexec/fmfd 
1		311		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/CoreServices/sharedfilelistd 
1		312		0.0		[U501]		/usr/libexec/pkd 
1		313		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CommerceKit.framework/Versions/A/Resources/storeaccountd 
1		314		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/AOSKit.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.iCloudHelper.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.iCloudHelper 
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1		421		0.3		[U501]		/Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari 
1		422		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/SafariShared.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.Safari.History.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.Safari.History 
1		424		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.WebKit.Networking.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.WebKit.Networking 
1		426		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIServices.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.hiservices-xpcservice.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.hiservices-xpcservice 
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1		431		0.1		[U501]		/System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.WebKit.WebContent.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.WebKit.WebContent 
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1		438		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CommerceKit.framework/Resources/LaterAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/LaterAgent 
1		440		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CloudServices.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.sbd.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.sbd 
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1		445		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/HomeKitDaemon.framework/Support/homed 
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1		447		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/CoreServices/Siri.app/Contents/XPCServices/SiriNCService.xpc/Contents/MacOS/SiriNCService 
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1		453		0.0		_applepay		/usr/libexec/nfcd 
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1		458		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/SafariShared.framework/Versions/A/XPCServices/com.apple.Safari.SearchHelper.xpc/Contents/MacOS/com.apple.Safari.SearchHelper 
1		459		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/SafariSafeBrowsing.framework/com.apple.Safari.SafeBrowsing.Service 
1		464		0.0		root		/usr/libexec/dprivacyd 
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1		929		0.0		[U501]		/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Support/mdworker_shared -s mdworker -c MDSImporterWorker -m com.apple.mdworker.shared 
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Messaggio Inviato: dom, 21 apr 2019 21:43

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Temp: Critical: The thermal state is significantly impacting the performance of the system and the device needs to cool down. Reduce usage of the CPU, GPU, and any I/O to the minimum level required for user interaction. Stop using any peripherals such as the camera.
Il sistema è surriscaldato, quali applicazioni stanno usando tutta la CPU?
Sei sicuro che quel modello è supportato da Mojave? (scheda grafica giusta e con memoria sufficiente)
Il disco meccanico è sicuramente da togliere quanto prima possibile, fra le altre cose è vecchio e morirà in tempi brevissimi.
Ognuno è come Dio lo ha fatto, ahimé...
...e spesso peggio.

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Messaggio Inviato: dom, 21 apr 2019 22:03

Ciao,
Si il mio iMac è supportato poiché Mojave ha la compatibilità dall'Imac 2012 e il mio è un iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2013)
Applicazioni non ne ho visto che ho formattato all'incirca 2-3 ore fa e non ho installato niente.
Il computer quando usavo solo BOOTCAMP non mi dava problemi ed andava velocissimo, avevo un sacco di programmi e giocavo pure un po, poi ho deciso di formattare tutto e installare Mojave, solo con il sistema operativo Apple mi da problemi, girano le ventole al massimo anche in idle e mi va lento anche se non ho installato niente.
La scheda grafica del mio iMac è una integrata (Intel Iris Pro 1536 MB), fino ad ora l'hard disk non mi ha mai dato problemi non so da cosa sia provocato questo rallentamento su Mojave, ho provato ad installare macsfancontrol per vedere le temperature e questi sono i risultati:
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Dimenticavo di dirti che il processo che consuma di più è kernel_task, allego qui una foto:
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Oggetto del messaggio: Re: IMac lentissimo, inutilizzabile

Messaggio Inviato: lun, 22 apr 2019 06:20

TonyErre ha scritto:
dom, 21 apr 2019 22:03
... il mio iMac è supportato poiché ...
Il tuo Mac è teoricamente supportato...

Senza un SSD non dovresti utilizzare nulla oltre Mavericks.
Con un po' di supponenza potresti spingerti a Sierra.

Ma assolutamente non con un filesystem APFS.
Oltretutto credo che il tuo disco rotazionale anche se non in fin di vita, sia logoro.
Quindi anche se DriveX nel test che ho appena guardato dichiara funzionante io credo sia poco funzionale.

Non so se installando proditoriamente Mojave tu abbia eseguito le necessarie regolazioni.
Eseguile adesso:

SMC
https://support.apple.com/it-it/HT201295

NVRAM
https://support.apple.com/it-it/HT204063

Per il resto gli altri esperti del Forum ti hanno già fatto notare che fondamentalmente hai un problema di surriscaldamento di sistema.
Il processo kernel task non è altro che il processo del sistema.
Genericamente racchiude tutti processi base legati all'attività di base del funzionamento.

Tra le altre competenza del kernel task c'è quello di rallentare le attività se la temperatura sale in modo dannoso.
Quindi tutto normale, il tuo Mac rallenta perché la temperatura è alta.

Perché è alta si spiega col fatto che la gestione dei processi incrociati di macOS (non c'era in OS X) richiede velocità del disco.
E il filesystem APFS pretende velocità del disco.
E tu hai un disco lento, vecchio e stanco.
Non credo ci sia bisogno di aggiungere altro.

Per il resto, non hai nulla.
Non hai applicazioni, se non hai truccato il profilo.
Non hai estensioni, driver, demoni e agenti di lancio.
La tua libreria utente è deserta.

Quindi neanche puoi avanzare l'ipotesi che il colpevole sia qualcos'altro.
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Messaggio Inviato: lun, 22 apr 2019 07:37

Oltre a tutto quello detto sopra, aggiungerei che in questi anni all'interno del tuo Mac si è molto probabilmente accumulata tanta polvere che sta intasando le ventole e quindi la circolazione dell'aria di raffreddamento.
Una bella pulizia interna abbasserebbe di parecchio le temperature, migliorando notevolmente anche le prestazioni.
Se poi approfitti dell'apertura del computer per cambiare disco e metterci un SSD, non dico che il tuo Mac diventerà una scheggia (gli anni si sentono comunque), ma una "mezza" scheggia, sì.
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Messaggio Inviato: lun, 22 apr 2019 10:25

No, il tuo iMac non è supportato.

Codice: Seleziona tutto

La scheda grafica del mio iMac è una integrata (Intel Iris Pro 1536 MB)
quella non è una scheda grafica adatta a Mojave.

Disinstalla Mojave e ritorna al sistema precedente.
Ognuno è come Dio lo ha fatto, ahimé...
...e spesso peggio.

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Messaggio Inviato: lun, 22 apr 2019 14:58

Grazie a tutti per le risposte,
Ho formattato e disinstallato Mojave adesso sto provando a installare Yosemite, il sistema operativo con cui mi è arrivato.. potreste consigliarmi un buon ssd da 1 tb compatibile con il mio imac?
SMC e NVRAM sono stati resettati anche se le ventole continuano a girare al massimo senza motivo
Adesso vedo come va con Yosemite se no passo direttamente a mavericks
Grazie ancora per l'aiuto
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Oggetto del messaggio: Re: IMac lentissimo, inutilizzabile

Messaggio Inviato: lun, 22 apr 2019 15:16

Hammarby ha scritto:
lun, 22 apr 2019 10:25
No, il tuo iMac non è supportato.
...
quella non è una scheda grafica adatta a Mojave...
Questo penso sia risolutivo...

Buono a sapersi.
Quindi neanche teoricamente quel Mac è adatto a Mojave
TonyErre ha scritto:
lun, 22 apr 2019 14:58
... sto provando a installare Yosemite, il sistema operativo con cui mi è arrivato...
Dovrebbe andare bene.

Ma anche all'epoca era scarso il disco non SSD.
Acquista un Crucial al miglior prezzo su Amazon, della taglia che preferisci.
Senza sofisticazioni, non durerà comunque molti anni quel Mac.
Fra due o tre anni sarà comunque troppo vecchio.

E il disco nuovo sarà solo un decente disco di trasporto dati.
E non conviene un disco di altissima qualità.

Dopo avere messo il disco potrai adottare Sierra.
Che sarà un buon sistema fino alla fine
TonyErre
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Messaggio Inviato: lun, 22 apr 2019 16:53

E' stato risolutivo,
installato Yosemite il pc è rinato anche se penso che in questi giorni comprerò un Crucial ssd da 500gb, ho dato una pulita all'interno e c'era più polvere in questo iMac che in casa. :D :D
Comparando le temperature vecchie e quelle nuove ho guadagnato all'incirca 9-10°
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Messaggio Inviato: lun, 22 apr 2019 16:58

Seguo con interesse.
TonyErre ha scritto:
lun, 22 apr 2019 14:58
adesso sto provando a installare Yosemite, il sistema operativo con cui mi è arrivato..
Per caso hai comprato questo iMac di seconda mano? Perché, guardando su https://everymac.com/systems/apple/imac ... specs.html , questa macchina del 2013 usciva di fabbrica con Mountain Lion installato, Yosemite fu disponibile in versione stabile solo dalla fine del 2014, più o meno. Resta pur sempre la possibilità che essendo uscito di produzione a ottobre 2015 si sia verificato il caso che il negozio dove lo hai preso abbia venduto una macchina prodotta nel 2013 con installato l'ultimo sistema disponibile al momento della vendita, cosa che è molto comune. Oppure, come dicevo, lo hai comprato di seconda mano ed era già stato aggiornato a Yosemite.
Non c'è nulla di male a comprare un iMac di seconda mano, è solo che un'eventuale conferma di un acquisto usato mi farebbe venire in mente un problema hardware sottaciuto dal precedente proprietario.

Edit: come non detto, hai postato mentre scrivevo :)
Se funziona, non aggiustarlo.


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Messaggio Inviato: lun, 22 apr 2019 17:34

Ciao,
no non ho comprato un imac di seconda mano, questo imac l'ho comprato nel 2015 da Expert ed aveva installato Yosemite sono il primo ed unico proprietario.
Fino a 1 anno fa andava benissimo però ogni cosa ha una fine prima o poi e gli anni si stanno facendo sentire :roll: :|
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