LibreOffice Portable updates

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I use LibreOffice Portable Version: 5.1.1.3 and currently whenever it says LibreOffice Update Available I go to the website and find that there is a new MAIN version 5.1.2 but the Portable version is still 5.1.1. This has been happening for about a week now. Why doesn’t LibreOffice Portable just report updates to itself and not refer to the main version updates? Unless there is a 5.1.1.4 or something, in which case it would be more useful to specify the full version and not just the first 3 digits.
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The portable version is
The portable version is managed by an another developer team. As I see, they not publicate a portable version for every LO versions, and the time of the publication always was different. For example the LO 5.1.1 and the LO511 Portable version was published closely same time…

Tibor Kovács Budapest, Hungary LO4.4.7, and LO5.1.1 Portable version; AOO4.1.2 on Win7×64Prof_SP1
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Thanks Zizi64. So do you think there IS an update to the portable version or is it just referring to the main version, which would be silly really if it is?
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As I understand it the portable version is maintained / packaged by one fellow, working alone, with little or no support from TDF / LO. It is probably a miracle that there even is a portable version.
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Thanks oweng. I have no idea what’s involved with converting it to portable so I guess the bit that checks for updates may not have been changed and may still be code from the non-portable version. I’ll probably just download the portable if I see the version number go e.g. from 5.1.1 to 5.1.2
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You surely know that...
…there are available many versions of LibO packaged in selfextracting archives in the .paf.exe format from this location Was all the packaging done by John T. Haller (Mr. PortableApps) allone, or did someone else also use the PortableApps packaging tool, and make the needed adaptions?

Cf. http://portableapps.com/development

PS There is no 5.1.1.4. 5.1.1.3 was the third RC first and got to be the released version 5.1.1 in the course of things.


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OK, thanks Lupp.

BTW I don’t use the Portableapps method I just use it completely freestanding.

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Just a remark and a question.
OK. Applications packed in the PortableApps “.paf.exe” kind of archive always are self-extracting to any location you choose and independent of the PortableApps platform. As far as I see the packed binaries for LibO are the same ones as with the 32-bit Win version. There is a difference concerning the included UI languages and some settings like the default location of the user profile, of course. I don’t think there is very much work needed to manufacture a package for another version, given the tool mentioned already. (But I never actually tried.)

Are you also interested in offline help for PortableLibO?


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Lupp wrote:
… Are you also interested in offline help for PortableLibO?
Hehe, I always installed the offline help file when I used to run the ‘normal’ main LibreOffice but for some reason when I (infrequently) used Help it always went to the online help! I never bothered to find out why but if the Offline Help for Portable LO is available yes I would be interested, out if curiosity if nothing else. Smile Thanks.
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There is a short(?) guide.
I do not like the online help myself, and since I often use portable versions (testing for this forum e.g.) I once investigated how the offline help could be made available for PortLibO versions. Recently I wrote a short guide about the subject. You find it attached.

It may be clumsy to some degree as my English is rather poor. Things are working nonetheless as I described them. I do it actually the second way myself.

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PortableOfflineHelp.odt 32.26 KB

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Thanks very much for that Lupp. I read your guide but the msiexec produced an error message about the file not being the correct format. In the end I just ran the downloaded .msi file sending the output to an empty folder, then copied (from that folder) the help folder to the App\libreoffice folder.

Using help still went to the website so I renamed the en-GB folder to en.
This appeared to work, i.e. pressing F1 used the offline help instead of going to the website.
However, all the Contents, Index, Find and Bookmarks tabs were there but after drilling down to the subheadings and ending up with an actual help topic to display resulted in nothing being there, i.e. when I double-clicked it or clicked the display button nothing happened.
So I’m back to square one!

I’m not knowledgeable enough to look into this myself so unless you know a quick and simple reason why it’s not working please don’t spend any more time on this on my behalf.
Thanks for your time anyway.

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This looks very strange to me.
I did it exactly the described way many times, and I never changed a folder name. “en-GB” was “en-GB” and nothing else. When I compiled the “guide” I repeated the procedure for an example and it worked as expected. Thr offline help vreated this way (“Second Case”) was fully functional.

Are you sure you placed the extracted files into the folder analogous to

“C:\PreservedPortableVersions\PortableApps\LibreOfficePortable5.1.1\App\libreoffice\help\en-GB” which is how I have it on my system?

Are you sure you did not leave out the “\help\” part of the path?

Are you sure your UI language is actually ‘English (UK)’?

LOman wrote:
I read your guide but the msiexec produced an error message about the file not being the correct format. In the end I just ran the downloaded .msi file…

This is strange again. If you “run” an msi on Win the associated executable is msiexec.msi again. Why should it complain about the format of the same file a first time, but not a second time when only the commandline parameters were changed or abolished?

(I will try to get back to this topic if I find the time.)


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This is a bit weird
I noticed that there were only 3 files in the ‘old’ help folder, idxcaption.xsl, idxcontent.xsl and main_transform.xsl and these 3 files were not in the ‘new’ help folder.

So as a test I copied these 3 files into the new help folder and to my surprise everything now works fine.
Also it appears to work whether the language folder is named en or en-GB.

I have no idea how but I now have a working offline help system (and it’s much better than the online one Smile )

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Glad it's finished now...
…but I have to add a hint to the guide that the xsl files are indispensable.

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LOman wrote:
Also it appears to work whether the language folder is named en or en-GB.
ISO 639-1 specifies the two-letter language code standard (which is used by the internet / HTML as BCP 47). It essentially stipulates a language code (e.g., en for English) and an optional national / cultural variant code (e.g., GB for Great Britain / United Kingdom) separated by a dash or underscore. This may be why en/ works in addition to en-GB/.
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Thanks oweng. It’s curious then that before I included the .xsl files it went to the online help but when I then renamed it from en-GB to en it worked.

Anyway, it’s working now so I’m happy.

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