iMac 12,2 High Sierra molto lento nel carimento.

Mac OS X e le sue Applicazioni

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Salve a tutti! è da qualche giorno che noto come il carimcamento del sistema è diventato molto lento. Ho provato a fare un pò di pulizia con ccleaner, eliminando alcune applicazioni all'avvio ma questo se fosse lento il sistema appena caricato, invece lui è lento nel momento in cui premo il pulsante di accensione. L'iMac in questione è il modello 12.2 metà 2011. hard disk originale da 1 TB, ho aumentato la ram a 12 gb. scheda video amd radeon hd 6770m 512 mb.
Allego alla presente risultato di etrecheck:

Codice: Seleziona tutto

EtreCheck version: 3.1.5 (343)
Report generated 2018-06-14 23:38:55
Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com
Runtime 3:34
Performance: Good

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Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.

Problem: Computer is too slow

Hardware Information: ⓘ
    iMac (27-inch, Mid 2011) 
    [Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]
    iMac - model: iMac12,2
    1 2,7 GHz Intel Core i5 (i5-2500S) CPU: 4-core
    12 GB RAM Upgradeable - [Instructions]
        BANK 0/DIMM0
            2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok
        BANK 1/DIMM0
            2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok
        BANK 0/DIMM1
            4 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok
        BANK 1/DIMM1
            4 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok
    Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported
    Wireless:  en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n

Video Information: ⓘ
    AMD Radeon HD 6770M
        iMac 2560 x 1440
        SA300/SA350 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz

System Software: ⓘ
    macOS 10.13.4 (17E202) - Time since boot: less than an hour

Disk Information: ⓘ
    ST31000528AS disk0 : (1 TB) (Rotational)
    [Show SMART report]
        EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB 
        Macintosh HD (disk0s2) /  [Startup]: 999.35 GB (692.61 GB free)
        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB 

    HL-DT-STDVDRW  GA32N   ()

USB Information: ⓘ
    Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in) 
    Apple, Inc. Keyboard Hub 
        Logitech USB Receiver 
        Apple Inc. Apple Keyboard 
    VIA Labs, Inc.          USB2.0 Hub              
        AK910 CKey 
        iTE Tech USB Mass Storage Device 
    Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub 
        Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller 
    Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver 
    Apple Internal Memory Card Reader 

Thunderbolt Information: ⓘ
    Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

Gatekeeper: ⓘ
    Mac App Store and identified developers

Unknown Files: ⓘ
    /Library/LaunchAgents/com.jackstay.xp.plist
        /Library/jackstay.xp/jackstay.xp.app/Contents/MacOS/jackstay.xp
    /Library/LaunchAgents/com.lodger.xz.plist
        /Library/lodger.xz/lodger.xz.app/Contents/MacOS/lodger.xz
    /Library/LaunchAgents/com.paragon-software.ntfs.notification-agent.plist
        /Library/Application Support/Paragon Software/com.paragon-software.ntfs.notification-agent.app/Contents/MacOS/NotificationAgent
    /Library/LaunchAgents/com.tubiform.plist
        
    /Library/LaunchAgents/net.novamotum.VFClientLauncher.plist
        /Library/Application Support/Vodafone Mobile Broadband/VMBClientLauncher.app/Contents/MacOS/VMBClientLauncher
    /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.paragon-software.ntfs.loader.plist
        /sbin/kextload /Library/Extensions/ufsd_NTFS.kext
    /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.paragon-software.ntfsd.plist
        /Library/Application Support/Paragon Software/com.paragon-software.ntfsd
    /Library/LaunchDaemons/net.novamotum.VFActivator.plist
        /Library/Application Support/Vodafone Mobile Broadband/VMBEngine.app/Contents/MacOS/VMBEngine
    /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/org.ntp.ntpd-legacy.plist
        /usr/libexec/ntpd-wrapper
    ~/Library/LaunchAgents/com.dropbox.DropboxMacUpdate.agent.plist
        ~/Library/Dropbox/DropboxMacUpdate.app/Contents/MacOS/DropboxMacUpdate -check periodic
    10 unknown files found. [Check files]

Kernel Extensions: ⓘ
        /Applications/Kies.app
    [not loaded]    com.devguru.driver.SamsungACMControl (1.4.32 - SDK 10.6 - 2017-07-27) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.devguru.driver.SamsungACMData (1.4.32 - SDK 10.6 - 2017-07-27) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.devguru.driver.SamsungComposite (1.4.32 - SDK 10.6 - 2017-07-27) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.devguru.driver.SamsungMTP (1.4.32 - SDK 10.5 - 2017-07-27) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.devguru.driver.SamsungSerial (1.4.32 - SDK 10.6 - 2017-07-27) [Support]

        /Applications/MacX Video Converter Pro.app
    [not loaded]    com.macxdvd.driver.goodSysAudioCapture (1.0 - SDK 10.10 - 2015-11-17) [Support]

        /Applications/NoMachine.app
    [not loaded]    com.nomachine.driver.nxau (4.1 - 2018-06-14) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.nomachine.driver.nxtun (4.1 - 2018-06-14) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.nomachine.driver.nxusb (4.1 - SDK 10.7 - 2018-06-14) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.nomachine.kext.nxfs (NoMachine Disk Adapter 4.1.b1 - SDK 10.6 - 2018-06-14) [Support]

        /Library/Application Support/HASP/kexts
    [loaded]    com.aladdin.kext.aksfridge (1.0.16332 - 2018-06-14) [Support]

        /Library/Application Support/LogMeIn/drivers
    [not loaded]    com.logmein.driver.LogMeInSoundDriver (1.0.3 - SDK 10.5 - 2014-07-03) [Support]

        /Library/Application Support/Paragon Software/Snapshot
    [not loaded]    com.Paragon-software.ParagonSnapshot (2.1.3 - SDK 10.7 - 2016-09-27) [Support]

        /Library/Extensions
    [loaded]    com.paragon-software.filesystems.extfs (9.8.620 - SDK 10.5 - 2018-05-30) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.paragon-software.filesystems.ntfs (15.1.26 - SDK 10.10 - 2018-05-30) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.paragon-software.kext.VDMounter (118.2 - SDK 10.8 - 2018-05-30) [Support]

        /System/Library/Extensions
    [not loaded]    com.elgato.driver.DontMatchAfaTech (1.1 - 2018-05-30) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.elgato.driver.DontMatchCinergy450 (1.1 - 2018-05-30) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.elgato.driver.DontMatchCinergyXS (1.1 - 2018-05-30) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.elgato.driver.DontMatchEmpia (1.1 - 2018-05-30) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.elgato.driver.DontMatchVoyager (1.1 - 2018-05-30) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.eltima.SyncMate.kext (0.2.5b15 - 2018-05-30) [Support]

System Launch Agents: ⓘ
    [failed]    com.apple.cloudd.plist (2018-03-28)
    [failed]    com.apple.corespeechd.plist (2017-11-01) - /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CoreSpeech.framework/corespeechd: Executable not found!
    [not loaded]    9 Apple tasks
    [loaded]    184 Apple tasks
    [running]    98 Apple tasks

System Launch Daemons: ⓘ
    [failed]    com.apple.updateEFIDesktopPicture-apfs.plist (2018-03-28)
    [not loaded]    36 Apple tasks
    [loaded]    181 Apple tasks
    [running]    118 Apple tasks

Launch Agents: ⓘ
    [not loaded]    com.adobe.ARMDCHelper.cc24aef4a1b90ed56a725c38014c95072f92651fb65e1bf9c8e43c37a23d420d.plist (2018-02-15) [Support]
    [running]    com.brother.LOGINserver.plist (2014-05-29) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.google.keystone.agent.plist (2018-02-04) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.intego.commonservices.statusitem.plist (2014-09-25) [Support]
    [running]    com.intego.netupdate.agent.plist (2014-10-20) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.intego.personalbackup.agent.plist (2013-10-28) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.intego.task.manager.notifier.plist (2014-10-20) [Support]
    [failed]    com.jackstay.xp.plist (2018-03-21) [Support] - /Library/jackstay.xp/jackstay.xp.app/Contents/MacOS/jackstay.xp: Executable not found!
    [failed]    com.lodger.xz.plist (2018-03-21) [Support] - /Library/lodger.xz/lodger.xz.app/Contents/MacOS/lodger.xz: Executable not found!
    [not loaded]    com.nomachine.localnxserver.plist (2014-03-25) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist (2017-07-24) [Support]
    [failed]    com.paragon-software.ExtFS.fsnotifyagent.plist (2015-10-21) [Support] - /Library/PreferencePanes/ParagonExtFS.prefPane/Contents/Resources/fsnotifyagent.app/Contents/MacOS/fsnotifyagent: Executable not found!
    [running]    com.paragon-software.ntfs.notification-agent.plist (2017-12-05) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.paragon.updater.plist (2016-01-19) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.tubiform.plist (2018-03-21) [Support]
    [not loaded]    net.novamotum.VFClientLauncher.plist (2018-06-08) [Support]
    [failed]    syncmateStarter.plist (2014-07-15) [Support] - /Library/Application Support/EltimaSyncMate/SyncMateServer.app/Contents/MacOS/SyncMateServer: Executable not found!

Launch Daemons: ⓘ
    [loaded]    com.adobe.ARMDC.Communicator.plist (2018-02-15) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.adobe.ARMDC.SMJobBlessHelper.plist (2018-02-15) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.adobe.fpsaud.plist (2018-06-02) [Support]
    [running]    com.aladdin.aksusbd.plist (2015-04-22) [Support]
    [running]    com.aladdin.hasplmd.plist (2015-04-22) [Support]
    [running]    com.apple.serverd.plist (2018-04-12) [Support]
    [running]    com.aruba.hidswitch.plist (2017-07-12) [Support]
    [running]    com.elgato.EyeConnect.plist (2014-02-20) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.google.keystone.daemon.plist (2018-03-06) [Support]
    [running]    com.intego.PersonalBackup.daemon.plist (2011-07-19) [Support]
    [running]    com.intego.commonservices.daemon.plist (2014-09-22) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.intego.commonservices.icalserver.plist (2014-09-22) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.intego.commonservices.metrics.kschecker.plist (2014-09-25) [Support]
    [running]    com.intego.netupdate.daemon.plist (2014-09-30) [Support]
    [running]    com.intego.task.manager.daemon.plist (2014-09-25) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.logmein.logmeinblanker.plist (2014-07-16) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.logmein.raupdate.plist (2013-11-07) [Support] - /Library/Application Support/LogMeIn/update/raupdate: Executable not found!
    [loaded]    com.malwarebytes.HelperTool.plist (2016-12-30) [Support]
    [running]    com.nomachine.server.plist (2014-03-25) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.nomachine.uninstall.plist (2014-03-25) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist (2017-07-12) [Support]
    [running]    com.paragon-software.installer.plist (2017-12-05) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.paragon-software.ntfs.loader.plist (2018-03-28)
    [running]    com.paragon-software.ntfsd.plist (2017-10-30) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.paragon-software.snapshot.plist (2016-09-27) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.paragon-software.vdmounter.plist (2018-03-28)
    [loaded]    com.paragon.ExtFS.launch.plist (2018-03-28)
    [loaded]    com.prosofteng.DRInstaller.plist (2018-03-01) [Support]
    [loaded]    com.teamviewer.Helper.plist (2014-03-25) [Support]
    [running]    net.novamotum.VFActivator.plist (2018-06-08) [Support]

User Launch Agents: ⓘ
    [failed]    com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist (2014-04-09) [Support] - /Applications/Adobe Reader.app/Contents/MacOS/Updater/Adobe Reader Updater Helper.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe Reader Updater Helper: Executable not found!
    [loaded]    com.dropbox.DropboxMacUpdate.agent.plist (2018-04-13) [Support]
    [not loaded]    com.spotify.webhelper.plist (2018-06-14) [Support]
    [running]    com.wondershare.mobilegodaemon.plist (2014-01-13) [Support]

User Login Items: ⓘ
    Qfinder Pro    Applicazione  
        (/Applications/Qfinder Pro.app)
    Dropbox    Applicazione  
        (/Applications/Dropbox.app)
    Qsync Client    Applicazione  
        (/Applications/Qsync Client.app)

Internet Plug-ins: ⓘ
    JavaAppletPlugin: Java 8 Update 141 build 15 (2017-07-24) Check version
    FlashPlayer-10.6: 30.0.0.113 - SDK 10.12 (2018-06-07) [Support]
    QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (2018-04-04)
    AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: 17.012.20098 - SDK 10.11 (2018-05-14) [Support]
    AdobePDFViewer: 18.011.20040 - SDK 10.11 (2018-05-14) [Support]
    Flash Player: 30.0.0.113 - SDK 10.12 (2018-06-07) [Support]
    Unity Web Player: UnityPlayer version 5.3.4f1 - SDK 10.6 (2016-05-02) [Support]
    Silverlight: 5.1.41212.0 - SDK 10.6 (2016-06-17) [Support]
    iPhotoPhotocast: 7.0 - SDK 10.8 (2013-10-27)

3rd Party Preference Panes: ⓘ
    Fan Control (2008-07-10) [Support]
    Flash Player (2018-06-02) [Support]
    Java (2017-07-24) [Support]
    NetUpdate (2014-10-20) [Support]
    NTFS (2017-10-30) [Support]
    Paragon ExtFS for Mac ® OS X (2015-10-30) [Support]
    PushDialer (2014-02-21) [Support]

Time Machine: ⓘ
    Auto backup: YES
    Volumes being backed up:
        Macintosh HD: Disk size: 999.35 GB Disk used: 306.73 GB
    Destinations:
        ARCHIVIO [Network] 
        Total size: 997.71 GB 
        Total number of backups: 151 
        Oldest backup: 28/09/15, 22:12 
        Last backup: 14/06/18, 18:55 
        Size of backup disk: Adequate
            Backup size 997.71 GB > (Disk used 306.73 GB X 3)

Top Processes by CPU: ⓘ
        28%   	firefox
        10%   	WindowServer
         5%   	plugin-container(4)
         4%   	Disk Utility
         3%   	kernel_task

Top Processes by Memory: ⓘ
    915 MB    	kernel_task
    823 MB    	plugin-container(4)
    479 MB    	mdworker(23)
    406 MB    	firefox
    332 MB    	Spotify Helper(3)

Virtual Memory Information: ⓘ
    6.96 GB   	Available RAM
    3.98 GB   	Free RAM
    5.04 GB   	Used RAM
    2.97 GB   	Cached files
    0 B       	Swap Used

Diagnostics Information: ⓘ
    Jun 14, 2018, 11:26:13 PM    /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/hidswitch_2018-06-14-232613_[redacted].crash
        /Library/aruba/*/hidswitch
    Jun 14, 2018, 11:24:52 PM    Self test - passed


Dopo che mi date i vostri consigli vorrei anche domandarvi quale SSD montare al posto dell'Hard disk originale da 1 TB.
iMac (27-inch, Mid 2011) - 2,7 GHz Intel Core i5 - 32 GB 1333 - DDR3 - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675MX 4 GB - SSD860 PRO 512 gb - SSD870 evo 2TB.
iMac (24-inch, Inizio 2009) - Intel Core 2 Duo a 2,66GHz - 8 GB ram - NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 con 256MB - SSD Evo 860 PRO 512 gb.
MacMini M1 2020 - 16 gb ram - ssd 256 gb.
Apple iPhone 12 pro max 256 gb.

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Intanto scarica la versione di prova di SMART Utility e verifica le condizioni dell'hard disk >>> https://www.volitans-software.com/apps/smart-utility/

Poi, non è che sia molto leggibile quel log, ma sbaglio o hai installato un antivirus? Se è così disinstallalo con grande cura, seguendo la procedura di rimozione prevista dallo sviluppatore.

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Stai usando una versione molto obsoleta di EtreCheck, devi postare questa:
Versione 3.4.7
https://www.imaccanici.org/apps/EtreCheck.zip

Su etrecheck.com trovi la versione corrente, la 4.3.2, che però non è consigliata per postare sul nostro forum: invece la versione 3.4.7 facilita l'analisi collettiva.

iMac (Retina 4K, 21.5-inch, Late 2015) Mod.16,2 - Processore 3,1 GHz Intel Core i5 (i5-5675R) CPU 4-core
Memoria 8 GB 1867 MHz DDR3 - Scheda grafica Intel Iris Pro Graphics 6200 1536 MB
sistema presente: macOS MONTEREY versione 12.7.4 (21H1123) dal 08/03/2024 ore 09:29

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Kernel Panic ha scritto:
ven, 15 giu 2018 03:40
Intanto scarica la versione di prova di SMART Utility e verifica le condizioni dell'hard disk >>> https://www.volitans-software.com/apps/smart-utility/
SMART Utility non mostra un parametro fondamentale in questi casi. Se il disco non ha settori danneggiati et similia, ma è solo molto consumato, SMART Utility dice che è tutto OK.
DriveDX, invece, mostra anche il parametro "Overall performing rating" che mostra l'efficienza del disco.
Un disco "consumato" gira più lento del dovuto perché la meccanica è usurata e si può rompere da un momento all'altro anche se gli altri parametri sono tutti a posto.
A me è capitato con un HD di sistema di 8 anni, diventato lentissimo ma perfetto secondo SMART Utility, mentre per DriveDX era da cambiare.
Ovviamente aveva ragione DriveDX. Si trova qui:
https://binaryfruit.com/drivedx
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Contatta:
phantom_83 ha scritto:
gio, 14 giu 2018 23:59
... vorrei anche domandarvi quale SSD montare al posto dell'Hard disk originale da 1 TB.
Avresti dovuto chiedere solo questo.

Indipendentemente dall'età di 7 anni, del tutto inaffidabile, del disco.
Non è proprio adatto a High Sierra.
Non andrebbe mai bene.

Indipendentemente dal software discutibile e non aggiornato installato.
Tanto reinstallerai da zero, obbligatorio, nel tuo caso.
Poi calibrerai il software all'effettivo utilizzo e aggiornamento.

Su questo disco
https://goo.gl/uUxsBr
Questa non è una firma, sono contro le firme
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Scelta giustissima il Crucial MX ma per 3 euro di differenza sceglierei il Samsung Evo 860, più performante secondo i benchmark che li mettono in comparazione. Comunque sia non credo che si noti la differenza nell'uso giornaliero del mac fra l'uno e l'altro.
https://www.amazon.it/Samsung-MZ-76E500 ... ref=plSrch

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